The Taris Event Chapter 2 OOC Thread

[Gandolfini]

I think Tsont'ar is still an option. He may not know what we need, but I think he'd be indebted to us if we helped him out so somehow. I'll reply to his last question shortly about how far we are willing to go to save JB.

Also, I may be stupid, but who's mom is Wailer's master?!

Master Jana/Jada(depending who is typing) is Jounville's mom.

Seriously. Am I daft? Where did I miss this? Link to post maybe?

That was way back in Chapter 1, before you joined the group.

[Cuspar]

Thanks Gando.

Now - with the new info from Tsont'Ar - how do we separate Ro'Talth from his guards, and have him come willingly with us? My initial thought is that I try and get to him again and slip him a note that (and I don't know HOW we want to say we know this) we have reason to believe that one of Kunga's men have been selling info to the Sith and that's how the probes buzzed the compound. I figure the fact that we KNOW the probes were present should give us something of an in.

Once get him to the ship/neutral location - I like Furiel's suggestion. Gamble that Kunga's fear of the Sith/Sargo can make us useful to him. But I'm kind of at a loss for what happens after we get Ro'Talth.

[Whiteness]

1. How do we get Ro' to come with us?
a. Wait for him at the villa, use something to link to ship to call Mr.T?
b. Kidnap the girl, try for some scenario where we get him to come for her alone?
c. Break into the car that's waiting for him and work with that some how? Attack him as he comes out and try to get the goons to force him in the car while they deal with us...
d. Kidnap Ro', which might not make him too willing
e. Tell Ro' that since the last meeting he has been in contact with Mr. T and needs to find a way to talk to him directly without his guards

What would motivate you as a majordomo to leave the security of your guards to talk with people you know have a loose association with a man who limited your boss's expansion. He does leave the safety of Kunga's for his mistress, so I'm thinking something along the lines of A or C.

Do we want to kill/incapacitate his guards? that is two of his and 3 of hers if we do.

[Blackferne]

1. How do we get Ro' to come with us?
a. Wait for him at the villa, use something to link to ship to call Mr.T?
b. Kidnap the girl, try for some scenario where we get him to come for her alone?
c. Break into the car that's waiting for him and work with that some how? Attack him as he comes out and try to get the goons to force him in the car while they deal with us...
d. Kidnap Ro', which might not make him too willing
e. Tell Ro' that since the last meeting he has been in contact with Mr. T and needs to find a way to talk to him directly without his guards

What would motivate you as a majordomo to leave the security of your guards to talk with people you know have a loose association with a man who limited your boss's expansion. He does leave the safety of Kunga's for his mistress, so I'm thinking something along the lines of A or C.

Do we want to kill/incapacitate his guards? that is two of his and 3 of hers if we do.

He has 3 she has 2. Just throwing that out there.

[Whiteness]

Only two were with him the box at the theater, so the one poking his head out the back was his #3?

let's get wailer to force pesuade him to come with us

[Furiel]

If the goal is to separate Ro'Talth from his guards then our best option is to try to get him to use us for a job, something that would make him want to see our ship first, then it's an easy matter of taking out his guard(s) on our terms.

However I'm not sure we NEED to separate him for sure. The guards are loyal to Kunga yes, however our discussion is going to be in the context of discussing a threat to Kunga and learning more about this threat so we can help them to understand it and possibly help them to neutralize it.

I don't really think we need to alter our current plan as long as Ro'Talth agrees to the meet. I mean we are going to be opening our presentation by showing a gamorean with kunga's markings and asking if he is still working for Kunga a month ago. If so then we find out if his kidnapping of Joun was sanctioned by Kunga or not. If it was then either we'll end up in combat and we take Ro alive, or he'll deny it and we try to discern if he's lieing. If he isn't lieing and it wasn't sanctioned by Kunga then it's in everyone's best interest at that point to figure out why the gamorean was there and what was the motive behind it. If he is lieing then we press him and offer him safe passage off Bryx with the knowledge that the Sith will be there shortly so it's in his best interest to leave anyway, and we can provide an annonymous ship to throw pursuit if he chooses that way, or again, if we press it might turn to combat, in which case again, we take Ro alive and get off Bryx.

Does this work for everyone, or do we have better/alternative ideas?

And unless they are way higher level than we are I'm confident we can take 3 guards.

[Whiteness]

Get Dood and Klak inside to 'attack' Ro' to distract his 2 guards inside after Cuspar convinces Ro' that someone is after him and has his personal bodyguard of Eli and myself escort him out the front door. Wailer convinces the speeder driver to let him in/give him the speeder and go to the front to pick us up.

just brainstorming

[Cuspar]

I like this - but I'm concerned about not separating him from the guards when Tsont'Ar specifically said to do that.

If the goal is to separate Ro'Talth from his guards then our best option is to try to get him to use us for a job, something that would make him want to see our ship first, then it's an easy matter of taking out his guard(s) on our terms.

However I'm not sure we NEED to separate him for sure. The guards are loyal to Kunga yes, however our discussion is going to be in the context of discussing a threat to Kunga and learning more about this threat so we can help them to understand it and possibly help them to neutralize it.

I don't really think we need to alter our current plan as long as Ro'Talth agrees to the meet. I mean we are going to be opening our presentation by showing a gamorean with kunga's markings and asking if he is still working for Kunga a month ago. If so then we find out if his kidnapping of Joun was sanctioned by Kunga or not. If it was then either we'll end up in combat and we take Ro alive, or he'll deny it and we try to discern if he's lieing. If he isn't lieing and it wasn't sanctioned by Kunga then it's in everyone's best interest at that point to figure out why the gamorean was there and what was the motive behind it. If he is lieing then we press him and offer him safe passage off Bryx with the knowledge that the Sith will be there shortly so it's in his best interest to leave anyway, and we can provide an annonymous ship to throw pursuit if he chooses that way, or again, if we press it might turn to combat, in which case again, we take Ro alive and get off Bryx.

Does this work for everyone, or do we have better/alternative ideas?

And unless they are way higher level than we are I'm confident we can take 3 guards.

[Whiteness]

If the goal is to separate Ro'Talth from his guards then our best option is to try to get him to use us for a job, something that would make him want to see our ship first, then it's an easy matter of taking out his guard(s) on our terms.

That would be good if we decide to take out the guards. I think that question will drive how we separate him from them

However I'm not sure we NEED to separate him for sure. The guards are loyal to Kunga yes, however our discussion is going to be in the context of discussing a threat to Kunga and learning more about this threat so we can help them to understand it and possibly help them to neutralize it.

I think we need to if we are taking him to talk to Mr. T, but I don't know why. That is based on blindly trusting Mr. T, which doesn't make me happy in the pants.

I don't really think we need to alter our current plan as long as Ro'Talth agrees to the meet. I mean we are going to be opening our presentation by showing a gamorean with kunga's markings and asking if he is still working for Kunga a month ago. If so then we find out if his kidnapping of Joun was sanctioned by Kunga or not. If it was then either we'll end up in combat and we take Ro alive, or he'll deny it and we try to discern if he's lieing. If he isn't lieing and it wasn't sanctioned by Kunga then it's in everyone's best interest at that point to figure out why the gamorean was there and what was the motive behind it. If he is lieing then we press him and offer him safe passage off Bryx with the knowledge that the Sith will be there shortly so it's in his best interest to leave anyway, and we can provide an annonymous ship to throw pursuit if he chooses that way, or again, if we press it might turn to combat, in which case again, we take Ro alive and get off Bryx.

I think a lot depends on his answer to the underlined question, so maybe we should have some alternate plans? But I don't want to make the game drag on either.

Does this work for everyone, or do we have better/alternative ideas?

And unless they are way higher level than we are I'm confident we can take 3 guards.

I think my plan in the post above sounds fun, but I don't know if I'd call it better. I'm glad you're confident about the guards, I would LOVE to go through some rounds of combat finally so I can see what it's like. What is your take on 5 guards incase we can't separate him from his mistress and her group?

[Cuspar]

Get Dood and Klak inside to 'attack' Ro' to distract his 2 guards inside after Cuspar convinces Ro' that someone is after him and has his personal bodyguard of Eli and myself escort him out the front door. Wailer convinces the speeder driver to let him in/give him the speeder and go to the front to pick us up.

just brainstorming

I like this too. His guards grabbed me as soon as I "bumped into him". The problem is numbers though - I'd say we'd need three guys to distract three guards so Ro'Talth has little choice but to assume Eli can protect him for a moment. Problem is, the three distracting the guards are going to end up in straight up combat with the guards.

What about getting Wailer to use some Jedi mind tricks to accomplish something similar?

[Gandolfini]

Get Dood and Klak inside to 'attack' Ro' to distract his 2 guards inside after Cuspar convinces Ro' that someone is after him and has his personal bodyguard of Eli and myself escort him out the front door. Wailer convinces the speeder driver to let him in/give him the speeder and go to the front to pick us up.

just brainstorming

[Whiteness]

With that scenario in mind, we could also have Bulwark take out the third guard that was poking his head out the back and have So fix the cameras for us.

Or maybe squeeze Bulwark into one of Eli's extra suits to help with the inside part

[Reese]

I think combat with the gaurds is ok. I like the odds of Klak and Dood, but probably need another striker.

[Blackferne]

Get Dood and Klak inside to 'attack' Ro' to distract his 2 guards inside after Cuspar convinces Ro' that someone is after him and has his personal bodyguard of Eli and myself escort him out the front door. Wailer convinces the speeder driver to let him in/give him the speeder and go to the front to pick us up.

just brainstorming

I love it when a plan comes together.

[Whiteness]

Get Dood and Klak inside to 'attack' Ro' to distract his 2 guards inside after Cuspar convinces Ro' that someone is after him and has his personal bodyguard of Eli and myself escort him out the front door. Wailer convinces the speeder driver to let him in/give him the speeder and go to the front to pick us up.

just brainstorming

I like this too. His guards grabbed me as soon as I "bumped into him". The problem is numbers though - I'd say we'd need three guys to distract three guards so Ro'Talth has little choice but to assume Eli can protect him for a moment. Problem is, the three distracting the guards are going to end up in straight up combat with the guards.

What about getting Wailer to use some Jedi mind tricks to accomplish something similar?

I think it's just two guards inside and one at the door, but GM will need to confirm. Syric could help with the combat side if need be and you and Eli can strongarm him out the door. If that's the plan I will need to go get a regular blaster pistol I can fit in my concealed holster.

[Reese]

FYI, my biggest issue with attacking the guards inside is it may attract more attention than just the gaurds. And Klak already is on the outs with local Police or Star Wars Authority.

[Gandolfini]

BTW, someone is going to have to convince Wailer that kidnapping is a good idea. He is dead-set against it.

[Whiteness]

FYI, my biggest issue with attacking the guards inside is it may attract more attention than just the gaurds. And Klak already is on the outs with local Police or Star Wars Authority.

good point, maybe So can disrupt communications long enough for you to run out the back. We just need the distraction, so if you run to the back the other guards may think you'll be running into the third guard that Bulwark has taken out (hopefully). Maybe get a speeder bike or rent one and have it stashed ready to go.

[Whiteness]

BTW, someone is going to have to convince Wailer that kidnapping is a good idea. He is dead-set against it.

How much brandy will it take to convince him that it's not really kidnapping if we're only trying to get him alone to talk and we're totally going to let him go afterwards?

[Cuspar]

I don't think there's any need for kidnapping. It IS a contingency, but I think our objective should be to get Ro'Talth to come with us willingly.

[Furiel]

So we're going to stage a kidnapping in the middle of a crowded theater during intermission? As Reese points out, we're going to end up with alot more than just the bodyguards to deal with then most likely. And while I'm not necessarily going to have to fight anyone, how the hell do Dood, Klak and whoever else get out of there once the target is secured?

Is there a high probability, assuming we can convince Wailer to participate, that we'd succeed in getting Ro? Yes.

Is there an equally high or even higher probability we're going to lose team members in the process to either death or incarceration? Hell yes.

[Whiteness]

Like I said, my plan sounds fun, not neccessarily better.

I don't know how to get him to come with us willingly, but I agree that should be the ultimate goal.

[Blackferne]

Based on your recon on Wednesday the security detail for Ro'Talth goes as follows. 2 guards stay with him at all times. There were two guards with him in the box, they followed him to the patron bar etc etc. The third is a roamer. He checks the alleyway, walks the common areas of the theater leading to that exit where the car is and occasionally walks all the way up to the box where Ro'Talth watches. They have comms the three security guys use.

Ro'Wan's security detail split, 1 in the dressing room, one behind stage near her staging area during the show but after the show they both stay with her the whole time.

The driver is the last man in play he drops them off for the show. He then leaves (don't know where he goes) and about the time the show ends he comes back to the alleyway to wait to pick them up.

[Gandolfini]

BTW, someone is going to have to convince Wailer that kidnapping is a good idea. He is dead-set against it.

How much brandy will it take to convince him that it's not really kidnapping if we're only trying to get him alone to talk and we're totally going to let him go afterwards?

He would probably be passed out by that point.

Now if you guys told him that Mr. T said that he had evidence that D-bag was involved in Jounville's disappearance and we needed to get him alone for him to answer questions...I'm just sayin'

[Furiel]

Like I said, my plan sounds fun, not neccessarily better.

I don't know how to get him to come with us willingly, but I agree that should be the ultimate goal.

This would be where having Wailer in the meeting could be handy, either by "persuading" Ro to leave with us instead of his bodyguards, or by "convincing" him to dismiss his guards temporarily so we can discuss matters in private.