The Taris Event Chapter 2 OOC Thread

Post by **Cuspar** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 3:01 pm

Still waiting for more feedback.

Post by **Dood** » Sun Mar 27, 2011 4:15 pm

Cuspar wrote:Still waiting for more feedback.

I also vote C.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:45 am

great, so when Gando introduces a plot device to avoid the gungan speak, which could help him be part of the team, Blackie tells Wailer to stop the team from doing the thing they think has the best chance of progressing the story.

evil gm?

Post by **Gandolfini** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:49 am

Whiteness wrote:great, so when Gando introduces a plot device to avoid the gungan speak, which could help him be part of the team, Blackie tells Wailer to stop the team from doing the thing they think has the best chance of progressing the story.

evil gm?

The plot device was always there but Wailer was too intimidated by y'all. Now I guess you have to keep him tipsy.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:55 am

Gandolfini wrote:
Whiteness wrote:great, so when Gando introduces a plot device to avoid the gungan speak, which could help him be part of the team, Blackie tells Wailer to stop the team from doing the thing they think has the best chance of progressing the story.

evil gm?
The plot device was always there but Wailer was too intimidated by y'all. Now I guess you have to keep him tipsy.

we will sway you from your hokey religion

Post by **Gandolfini** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:04 am

Whiteness wrote:
Gandolfini wrote:
Whiteness wrote:great, so when Gando introduces a plot device to avoid the gungan speak, which could help him be part of the team, Blackie tells Wailer to stop the team from doing the thing they think has the best chance of progressing the story.

evil gm?
The plot device was always there but Wailer was too intimidated by y'all. Now I guess you have to keep him tipsy.
we will sway you from your sober religion

buzzanudo-ed

Post by **Reese** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:49 am

I swear I'm going to post soon. Option C. Been stuck with family haven't read the chapter thread.

Post by **Furiel** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:39 pm

Well fuck me gently with a chainsaw, so much for plan A.

Time to move on to plan B - getting the info we need from Ro'Talth. Which means do we wait until the show Friday night to try to contact him, or do we try to contact him through Saltori and get him to meet with us prior?

We can use the fact that we think we know why the Sith are interested in Kunga and they don't as leverage to get the meet. Then we can slow play it, giving them pieces of info while we get our questions answered.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 1:56 pm

Furiel wrote: Time to move on to plan B - getting the info we need from Ro'Talth. Which means do we wait until the show Friday night to try to contact him, or do we try to contact him through Saltori and get him to meet with us prior?

I think both. We continue with the plan to go to the show and bump into him again, maybe tell him that we took his advice to stay away from Mr.T after we looked into his history? Wailer will possibly contact him through Saltori, and we could too but I don't know what our approach would be.

Furiel wrote: We can use the fact that we think we know why the Sith are interested in Kunga and they don't as leverage to get the meet. Then we can slow play it, giving them pieces of info while we get our questions answered.

I would assume they already know the Sith are interested in Kunga, they could probably ID the probe and since they are exchange they are probably aware everyone has some level of interest in them. We wouldn't want him to know we were scouting Kunga's hideout.

We may still have an option with Mr. T, he said he is interested in Bryx now, so who knows what he will say next. He still knows more than we do.

Also, we still need to find out what Blackferne was doing. Was there anything else we could have checked?

Post by **Cuspar** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:23 pm

I think Tsont'ar is still an option. He may not know what we need, but I think he'd be indebted to us if we helped him out so somehow. I'll reply to his last question shortly about how far we are willing to go to save JB.

Also, I may be stupid, but who's mom is Wailer's master?!

Post by **Blackferne** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:31 pm

Cuspar wrote:I think Tsont'ar is still an option. He may not know what we need, but I think he'd be indebted to us if we helped him out so somehow. I'll reply to his last question shortly about how far we are willing to go to save JB.

Also, I may be stupid, but who's mom is Wailer's master?!

Master Jana/Jada(depending who is typing) is Jounville's mom.

Post by **Furiel** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:41 pm

RE: Whitey

They may know that the Sith are interested, but they may not know WHY they are interested. And as we are so painfully aware of right now, the why is just as important if not moreso than the rest. And we also know WHO in the Sith is interested as well.

And I'm not entirely fond of trying to meet with him again at the theater without him knowing we're coming and want to talk to him. Ultimately we believe he has info we want, why they took Joun and where, and we have info he's going to want, why the Sith are interested in Kunga. I see no reason to leave a sit down with Ro'talth to chance to try to trade those pieces of info when we have an semi-open channel to him already we can use.

And we don't have to tell him we were scouting Kunga's compound, how we came about the knowledge that there were 2 Sith probe droids that paid them a visit last night is our business and if asked we just tell them we have our sources and that we would hope they respect our operations just as we respect theirs.

I think the time for subtely and discression is mostly past. We need to stop pussyfooting around and start being direct with people. They have something we want. We have something they want. Lets meet and trade. It doesn't have to be more complex than that.

Post by **Gandolfini** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:49 pm

Blackferne wrote:
Cuspar wrote:I think Tsont'ar is still an option. He may not know what we need, but I think he'd be indebted to us if we helped him out so somehow. I'll reply to his last question shortly about how far we are willing to go to save JB.

Also, I may be stupid, but who's mom is Wailer's master?!
Master Jana/Jada(depending who is typing) is Jounville's mom.

The first time was a typo but then I decided that it is just his speech pattern that Jana comes out as Jada.

Post by **Gandolfini** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:53 pm

Furiel wrote:RE: Whitey

They may know that the Sith are interested, but they may not know WHY they are interested. And as we are so painfully aware of right now, the why is just as important if not moreso than the rest. And we also know WHO in the Sith is interested as well.

And I'm not entirely fond of trying to meet with him again at the theater without him knowing we're coming and want to talk to him. Ultimately we believe he has info we want, why they took Joun and where, and we have info he's going to want, why the Sith are interested in Kunga. I see no reason to leave a sit down with Ro'talth to chance to try to trade those pieces of info when we have an semi-open channel to him already we can use.

And we don't have to tell him we were scouting Kunga's compound, how we came about the knowledge that there were 2 Sith probe droids that paid them a visit last night is our business and if asked we just tell them we have our sources and that we would hope they respect our operations just as we respect theirs.

I think the time for subtely and discression is mostly past. We need to stop pussyfooting around and start being direct with people. They have something we want. We have something they want. Lets meet and trade. It doesn't have to be more complex than that.

Fortune favors the bold.

Personally, I don't think we have that much information for trading but I do think we should find out if Kunga had a hand in this or not. I like the idea of Mr. Gilded Tongue (Cuspar) approaching him with what we know and asking point blank if Kunga is involved. If we do it at Saltori HQ, the security may be too tight to extract him safely so the theatre looks to be the best bet.

Post by **Furiel** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:09 pm

That's pretty much what I was thinking, hoping. Basically using the stills that Wailer has and we sit him down and show him the one of the Gamorean and say when and where the pic was taken and ask if we was still in Kunga's employ at that time. That answer, then lets us know if Kunga had a hand in Joun's kidnapping or not. And even if Kunga didn't, that doesn't mean the Exchange didn't have a hand in it, and he may still have an idea why. And once we are done with our questions, then we tell him that the reason we came to Bryx and am asking him these questions is the same reason the Sith will be shortly. And our advice would be to leave planet now unless he thinks some quality time in a Sith torture chamber sounds like a pleasant break from the monotony of his everyday life.

And I also concur that the theater might be a better option for a meet due to lesser security, because if he reacts poorly to our questioning Cuspar, myself and whoever else will have a much better chance of escaping with our hides mostly intact.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:18 pm

Furiel wrote:RE: Whitey

They may know that the Sith are interested, but they may not know WHY they are interested. And as we are so painfully aware of right now, the why is just as important if not moreso than the rest. And we also know WHO in the Sith is interested as well.

good point

Furiel wrote:And I'm not entirely fond of trying to meet with him again at the theater without him knowing we're coming and want to talk to him. Ultimately we believe he has info we want, why they took Joun and where, and we have info he's going to want, why the Sith are interested in Kunga. I see no reason to leave a sit down with Ro'talth to chance to try to trade those pieces of info when we have an semi-open channel to him already we can use.

I'm not fond of it either, it just seems like that's what we're being guided towards.

Furiel wrote:And we don't have to tell him we were scouting Kunga's compound, how we came about the knowledge that there were 2 Sith probe droids that paid them a visit last night is our business and if asked we just tell them we have our sources and that we would hope they respect our operations just as we respect theirs.

I didn't think we'd tell them, but I worry that he has no reason to respect our small time operations when we're in his backyard. I think we can tell them why the sith are interested without overtly stating that we know they are getting probed by sith probes.

Furiel wrote:I think the time for subtely and discression is mostly past. We need to stop pussyfooting around and start being direct with people. They have something we want. We have something they want. Lets meet and trade. It doesn't have to be more complex than that.

Is what we have worth what we want? Is all we can tell them that Joun is wanted by the sith? If so one could assume Kunga and the Sith want Joun for the same reason, and if so they would know others could be interested. I just don't see what we have that they want but as I have no alternative I won't argue to not do it.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:21 pm

Furiel wrote:That's pretty much what I was thinking, hoping. Basically using the stills that Wailer has and we sit him down and show him the one of the Gamorean and say when and where the pic was taken and ask if we was still in Kunga's employ at that time. That answer, then lets us know if Kunga had a hand in Joun's kidnapping or not. And even if Kunga didn't, that doesn't mean the Exchange didn't have a hand in it, and he may still have an idea why. And once we are done with our questions, then we tell him that the reason we came to Bryx and am asking him these questions is the same reason the Sith will be shortly. And our advice would be to leave planet now unless he thinks some quality time in a Sith torture chamber sounds like a pleasant break from the monotony of his everyday life.

And I also concur that the theater might be a better option for a meet due to lesser security, because if he reacts poorly to our questioning Cuspar, myself and whoever else will have a much better chance of escaping with our hides mostly intact.

I should have read the whole thread before replying, I agree with all of this except the thought that he should be scared enough to leave the planet.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:23 pm

Although, maybe the threat of the sith is why Kunga is locked up now so maybe offer Ro' a ride off Bryx in exchange for information if he is not readily providing it?

Post by **Furiel** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 3:53 pm

That is something I've considered putting on the table. Alot of what I am proposing is based off of what could be a faulty assumption, but I don't think it is, which is that Kunga doesn't know that the Sith are interested in Joun. We are assuming right now that both Kunga and the Sith are interested in Joun for the same reason, but that could be a faulty assumption as well because unfortunately we don't know why either one is interested.

I don't think Kunga is buttoned down because of the Sith because Kunga went into hiding after Sargo paid him a visit and we know they have a beef with each other, so unless Sargo hung Kunga out to dry with the Sith it's fear of Sargo that has him holed up, not the Sith. And honestly, if it is fear of the Sith that has Kunga holed up then maybe we can broker that as well. Hortell "sent" us hunting Joun when we left Lok. We could offer to send a "progress report" to him exonerating Kunga of any wrongdoing in exchange for all the info they got on Joun and why the Sith and the Exhange are interested in him.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:07 pm

Furiel wrote:That is something I've considered putting on the table. Alot of what I am proposing is based off of what could be a faulty assumption, but I don't think it is, which is that Kunga doesn't know that the Sith are interested in Joun. We are assuming right now that both Kunga and the Sith are interested in Joun for the same reason, but that could be a faulty assumption as well because unfortunately we don't know why either one is interested.

Definitely, Kunga could have easily grabbed him for some other reason, though I agree with your assumption. Of course that is also still assuming Kunga grabbed him and not some of his men that went rogue, which your previous post lays out a plan to finally prove if that is true.

Furiel wrote:I don't think Kunga is buttoned down because of the Sith because Kunga went into hiding after Sargo paid him a visit and we know they have a beef with each other, so unless Sargo hung Kunga out to dry with the Sith it's fear of Sargo that has him holed up, not the Sith. And honestly, if it is fear of the Sith that has Kunga holed up then maybe we can broker that as well. Hortell "sent" us hunting Joun when we left Lok. We could offer to send a "progress report" to him exonerating Kunga of any wrongdoing in exchange for all the info they got on Joun and why the Sith and the Exhange are interested in him.

I also thought he was hiding because of Sargo, not the Sith, until you brought up the probe again. Maybe once we talk to Ro' about the Sith we will have a better idea if he's scared enough of them to trust/help us. I mean, Kunga is scared of something, so Ro' should understand there is a real threat somewhere.

Post by **Blackferne** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:21 pm

Not to interfere, but I'd like to point out that I play the NPCs based on what is generally in their best interest (either financially or adherence to a code of conduct) just like anyone else would do. And that said these characters are part of a larger universe with lots of interwoven paths. Like Tsont'Ar and Ro'Talth have history completely unrelated to Jounville at all. And while the Jounville story is your main objective, the NPCs may not and often won't share your interests. The galaxy doesn't revolve around Jounville Blackferne in everyone's estimation.

Post by **Whiteness** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 4:49 pm

That just reinforces my feeling that we need to get to the bottom of why Joun was taken. While the galaxy doesn't revolve around him, the Sith want to find him which is a big part of the galaxy we're concerned with, and one of the people who took him has a marking of an exchange member which is another big part of the galaxy we're concerned with.

I think it's important to talk to Ro' about the men that grabbed him, and to talk to Mr T. about any reason he could think of the Sith would be chasing someone right now. I think Cuspar should mention Captain Hortell and his landing on Lok, and see if he knows anything about them.

Is there anything we can do to find out about whatever transport brought Joun back to Lok or the destination of Hortell after he left Lok? Or is it a little too late?

Post by **Gandolfini** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:19 pm

BTW, all Wailer would have reported on Mr. T was that he was in Republic Intelligence but is not anymore. He would not have shared Jana's concerns about working with him. Jana's opinions don't carry a lot of weight with Wailer at this point.

Post by **Cuspar** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:10 pm

Blackferne wrote:
Cuspar wrote:I think Tsont'ar is still an option. He may not know what we need, but I think he'd be indebted to us if we helped him out so somehow. I'll reply to his last question shortly about how far we are willing to go to save JB.

Also, I may be stupid, but who's mom is Wailer's master?!
Master Jana/Jada(depending who is typing) is Jounville's mom.

Seriously. Am I daft? Where did I miss this? Link to post maybe?

Post by **Furiel** » Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:15 pm

Cuspar wrote:
Blackferne wrote:
Cuspar wrote:I think Tsont'ar is still an option. He may not know what we need, but I think he'd be indebted to us if we helped him out so somehow. I'll reply to his last question shortly about how far we are willing to go to save JB.

Also, I may be stupid, but who's mom is Wailer's master?!
Master Jana/Jada(depending who is typing) is Jounville's mom.
Seriously. Am I daft? Where did I miss this? Link to post maybe?

viewtopic.php?p=3169#p3169

2nd post, page 3 of chapter 1

Or as I like to think of it, 2nd post, page 3 BC

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